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Mason Walker – Excellence in Hearing Care

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Mason Walker is the President of Audigy, a company that provides resources to hearing care specialists so they can better serve their patients. He is originally from Tucson, Arizona, and helped launch Audigy in 2004. Audigy helps hundreds of entrepreneurs realize their full potential by bolstering their belief in what’s possible, helping them reach their goals, and supporting them every step of the way. 

Mason started his professional journey by working in the family business. The Country Emporium was an antique store that his parents literally built right inside their house. It allowed him to learn firsthand the value of hard work and the importance of building relationships.

Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn: 

  • Mason Walker’s background growing up in Tucson and what he learned from his parents’ antique store business
  • What inspired Mason to go into the hearing care space and join Audigy
  • What Mason is most proud of accomplishing with Audigy
  • Mason’s advice for people starting a career in hearing care and for patients dealing with hearing loss
  • The people Mason respects in the hearing care space and those he acknowledges for his success
  • How to provide excellent service in healthcare
  • Ways to get in touch with Mason Walker

In this episode…

When you work in the hearing care space, you can dramatically alter patients’ lives. If you want to offer the best care possible, being proactive instead of reactive can make a huge difference. However, staying up to date with the latest technological advancements can be challenging for smaller organizations to achieve. How can you grow your practice in a way that benefits your business and your patients?

Mason Walker, the President of Audigy, believes that hearing is a gift. He’s made it his business to share that gift by bringing resources to small businesses in the hearing space. If you want to provide quality care, Audigy can help you take the necessary steps to reach your goals. For Mason, it’s not just about growing a business—it’s about being part of a movement that impacts people’s lives. 

In this week’s episode of ListenUp!, Dr. Mark Syms is joined by Mason Walker, the President of Audigy, to talk about providing excellent service in hearing care. Mason reveals what he learned from being in the family business when growing up and why he’s passionate about what he does now. Plus, he shares his advice for newcomers to the hearing industry space.

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Sponsor for this episode…

This episode is brought to you by the Arizona Hearing Center.

The Arizona Hearing Center is a cutting-edge hearing care facility providing comprehensive, family-focused care. Approximately 36 million Americans suffer from some sort of hearing loss, more than half of whom are younger than the age of 65. That’s why the team at the Arizona Hearing Center is focused on providing the highest-quality care using innovative technologies and inclusive treatment plans. 

As the Founder of the Arizona Hearing Center, Dr. Mark Syms is passionate about helping patients effectively treat their hearing loss so that they can stay connected with their family and friends and remain independent. He knows first-hand how hearing loss can impact social connection and effective communication. By relying on three core values—empathy, education, and excellence—Dr. Syms and his team of hearing loss experts are transforming the lives of patients. 

So what are you waiting for? Stop missing out on the conversation and start improving your quality of life today!  

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Episode Transcript

Intro  0:04  

Welcome to the Listen Up! Podcast where we explore hearing loss communication, connections and Health.

Dr. Mark Syms  0:16  

Dr. Mark Syms here, I’m the host of the Listen Up! Podcast where we feature top leaders in healthcare. This episode is brought to you by Arizona Hearing Center, I help patients to effectively treat their hearing loss so they can connect better with their family and friends and remain independent. The reason I’m so passionate about hearing helping hearing loss patients is because I lost my brother Robbie twice. First from his hearing loss from radiation to his brain tumor, and then again when he passed away. I only care for ears, I’m the E of ENT and I have performed over 10,000 year surgeries over the past 20 years. I’m the founder of The Arizona Hearing Center. I’m the author of Listen Up!, so to go to and go to to contact us with any questions or email us for any support. Today on Listen Up!, we have Mason Walker. I’m excited. He’s the President of Audigy. He was an essential part of growing Audigy to what it is today. From the first time I met Mason around 2014. His ability to connect and his leadership was so apparent. He’s a person truly dedicated to his team. I know him to be an excellent father and friend. He’s originally from Tucson, Arizona. And we’ll explore that a little further. And I’m excited to have him on Listen Up! today. Mason, welcome. 

Mason Walker  1:20  

Thank you for having me. I appreciate it. 

Dr. Mark Syms 

So you know, I know the story. But I this is one of my favorite stories that you tell you know, we all have our origin stories, and I love your origin story. Tell me a little bit about you know, what your parents did, what you grew up in and what you did growing up as a kid and your experience.

Mason Walker  1:40  

I would say if you have to go back to where it all began, which is this this beautiful place called Tucson. It’s not it’s not as a you know, as big as Phoenix and Scottsdale but Tucson Arizona was home for for my family for many years back to Adam and Eve I was like I got to take you to this to this place called the Rito. Which for those of you that are not from the deserts, it’s our version of a dry wash bed to see you know, without water, sand. But I grew up in Arizona where multiple generations in the state go back even before the state was a state when it was still territory. And yeah, well, you know, we had a small my family had a opener show kind of pinetop area they had a small cabin homestead where we had some cattle up there many moons ago, homestead still there now a little state monument. But we came down south and Phoenix and ultimately landed in Tucson and on my now my mom said a family they’re all electricians. But um, my my father decided right out of high school that we wanted to purchase an antique shop. Why I’m not sure you know, when he first graduate high school, you would think that the antique shop is something that you are pursued for career, but he did. And that was a I will say 1974. And essentially, we grew up there. I have one sibling, my sister and it was a unique childhood growing up where your home is connected to your antique shop. And every morning I’d wake up and look out my bedroom window. And here’s this this antique shop full of merchandise. And we say our house was in the shop. Our house was connected to the antique shop. Richard was away from work that way are you which was quite the childhood. We were antique shop was in the county, Pima County and in the mornings before I go to school, my dad would always come get me up and say it’s time to time to get the merchandise out. And our form of advertising back then was we’d haul about half of the merchandise out of the antique shop into the front of the store and the dirt parking lot that we had. It would hang all the Spurs the brand urns up and the chaps that we’d have on wagons, that’d be all front. Hopefully somebody driving by would see so much in the way of items sitting out front that they’d have to stop and come in. But it was it was it was a special special way of growing up. And I gotta say the biggest thing for me is I was able to see my mom and dad every day pursue something that they loved. And so when you’re able to see to people that you really admire and respect and value as your parents do something that really wasn’t a job, and you were able to see them live their life in a way to where they’re really living it through this career. You know, I’ll be at you know, an antique shop not necessarily you know, you know, a big corporate opportunity or a very lucrative business they did something they loved and I had the fortunate pleasure of my sister seeing that every day. How old were you when you made your first sale? Do you remember when you when I turned five my dad took me on a buying trip to New Mexico and El Paso Texas and over the war as it or antiques or I need to go looking. We go pick and looking for antiques bring stuff back and then the agreement essentially is every year going to buy and trip with them and from that from kind of five on When I started to get about eight and nine, he said, if you’ll keep track of all the inventory that I purchase at all the items that I purchase and make it all a little yellow, you know, kind of Notepad, where we bought it, what I bought it for, I’ll give you a percentage of what I spend that you can basically use to purchase your own items. And the next day, I wrote kind of road trip that we go on, we are pickers right, you know, we were very much pickers. And I would say the, the piece for me that I loved about that was when, when we were on the road, and I would say even in the antique shop, the business always came back to people in I would say, share in a conversation or something of mutual interest. And it was a very authentic and very kind of candid and genuine way that I was able to see my father connect with people about something that was near and dear to them, that was special to their story. And in return, we were never really buying anything or selling anything, I felt like we were kind of carrying this, this this story or this journey forward of whatever this item was that they had. And I say as a result, they ultimately, yeah, when you’re knocking on doors, and you’re showing up to people’s ranches, and, you know, driving down the road in the southwest, and you see, you know, some wagons sit on some property, and you pull up there, they’re not, they’re not generally overly excited that you just happened to wander on their property, and want to talk to them about something that they have in their front yard.

But what uh, what I saw there was, ultimately that they, they trusted in my dad, in a way to where they felt a connection that was beyond the merchandise. And as a result, we would leave with these really unique items. And my dad would be the same thing, when we got back to the antique shop, and he put it in there. He wished he would take two hours to tell you about a $4 or shoe and it was about the price point. It was about the story behind this, you know, this product and connecting the audience. And that’s a gift that I feel grateful for, that I have to this day.

Mason Walker  7:02  

It’s great. I mean, you know, basically it already pre selected as customers that be interested in any past on the story. Right. So there’s hopefully people telling stories about that horse you hanging up on there.

Dr. Mark Syms  7:15  

Yeah, absolutely. So you know, fast forward again, up in the hearing space RPGs in the hearing space. And so, tell me a little bit about that. Like, what about the hearing space brings you great satisfaction in a similar vein? Because I think it’s it’s analogous in a lot of ways.

Mason Walker  7:29  

Yeah, no, I, I don’t think, you know, this, I didn’t necessarily have a family member that, you know, that inspired me to pursue hearing. And so when the soccer team came along, I’d met an individual, Brandon, who’s the gentleman that was ultimate founder of Audigy. And the conversation that we had, though, was really I would say about impact. And it was, you know, it’s fresh out of my undergrad, it, I was very much wanting to pursue something similar to what I grew up in, which was, let’s do something that makes a difference, like, let’s do something that impacts the lives of those that we serve. But ultimately, I also want to do something that I felt, you know, could grow and have the ability to develop and scale. So when I met this individual, you know, Brandon, and we discussed Audigy and you know, I end up joining the team, it was, I would say probably within the first year, very apparent to me that in hearing care space, this gift of hearing was truly a gift. And I had maybe not necessarily had the opportunity to pause and reflect and understand the impact that hearing has, you know, in a way of no on both your loved ones, and on the quality of life that many, many still desire to live, when those challenges come into their in their life, whether at a young age or an older age and their ability to hear. And so we started having these conversations, and we launched on June 2004. Really, there was this, this idea that we wanted to be able to bring resources to small business owners that were in the hearing care space. And if we thought about, you know, just like within my own family’s business, I believe that every you know, every market, every community, every patient, every consumer deserves freedom of choice. And so how do we help private practices independence, have more tools in their toolbox to continue to do something that they love, and to be able to serve in their communities? So when patients do this, you know, they do go to maybe a big box or a larger retail organization? And they’re not pleased or they’re not the other their experiences, necessarily. They’re in a way where they think this is it. This is incredible. Where do they go that and who do they look for? So hearing care for, for me was first about the Audigy model, and how do we create a business model that can help independent practices. But once we have an opportunity to work with those businesses and you sit in those, you know, in those practices and hear the conversations that happen with those patients, how can you not fall in love with this industry, fall in love with patients and fall in love with the opportunity that we have Being able to give people you know, this gift of hearing back into their lives. 

Dr. Mark Syms  10:05  

So, yeah, that’s kind of, you’re attracted by the founder the business and then turned out one day you woke up you go, wow, this is actually even cool what we do? That’s kind of what you’re saying, I think, right?

Mason Walker  10:15  

Absolutely, you know, because it’s there’s this element of, when you look at the business model of Audigy, from a business perspective, the tools, the products, the platforms are very innovative, you know, they’re, they’re leading, you know, in the way of the resources that they bring. And that’s exciting to build something that’s never been built before. But then when you go from a B standpoint, to a b2b play, where you actually speak to the businesses themselves, and you talk with the staff, and you talk to the practice owners, and you hear that passion, that love that they have for what they represent, and that they want to be able to serve more of their community, right, they want to be able to bring their brand to a larger audience and their respective marketplaces. But at the end of the day, they know what they know, but they don’t know what they don’t know. And so in their mind, all they can see is their own four walls, and in their mind that works, it’s okay, it’s good enough. And then we get an opportunity to share with them and show with them a path where they potentially achieve much more, right. And then as the second you know, that third piece plays out from from a, b to c play with, with a patient engagement, to see your tools and your services. Now, not only start at the corporate office, building, something that we think is really exciting, go to the go to the teams and the practices themselves to bring benefit value, but now it’s coming full circle the patient and creating this experience, right, which is what, you know, it’s a for many of us we’re searching for in our lives is we want an experience, not just a transaction, and that, yeah, exactly. 100%. So yeah, here’s a noun and a verb. And I think that, you know, the other. The other piece for me is when you start thinking about healthcare, and you start thinking about the patients that are out there, and in a variety of sectors, not always, always slowing down to be able to really acknowledge and identify with that individual, what their life circumstances look like, that they’re navigating and return the lifestyle that they want to be able to achieve. You know, sometimes we’re very focused on an immediate, you know, prognosis or some sort of diagnosis around a need or a problem that they have, in a return immediate tactical or transactional solution. And with Audigy and with the conversations that we started to have with our, with our, with our members, it became really clear that they weren’t necessarily there simply to treat a patient, they’re there to be able to create patients for life in a way that they wanted to invest in that patient. In order to invest in that patient, we really needed to understand what was driving that patient’s needs both personally, as well as from a lifestyle. It’s not just an audio, holistic rehabilitation, that mean, exactly, yeah, well say rehabilitating somebody’s arm or leg, you know, like, if you break your leg, it’s trying to rehabilitate the whole person back to what they want to be, or what their expectations were prior to their hearing loss. 

Dr. Mark Syms  13:11  

And that’s why I’m jazzed about it, too. So I mean, we have a mutually agreeable interest there. So so you know, during your time at Audigy, you know, what have you been most proud of? What competence? I mean, you have a lot. So you know, in terms of your whole time there, which what’s the one that you know, you think, gosh, that that’s really awesome. Maybe it’s more than one, but I suspect there’s probably one that comes up?

Mason Walker  13:29  

Yeah, no, I, it’s, it’s a great question. And I think as any, as any business owner, and, you know, teammate and leader, you’re extremely proud of what your your business model has been able to achieve. And the product that it represents, within the marketplace, we created a kind of a new category, and a new level of value that wasn’t necessarily perceived or was or was there before in the way of other, you know, other players. So to be able to create something and create a new niche and create new products. was, was really, I would say inspiring along the way. If I were to come back to the real piece of this, though, that I’d say I’m probably spend, it’ll be 17 years in October, that we that we’ve had Audigy and audio when I was 23, when we started, you know, the number of teammates that you feel you’ve been able to, you know, I’d say write chapters with or new chapters in their life as well as in your life. I’m really, I’m really proud of how many people I believe that come into the Audigy system and the audit cheat platform and into the object culture that have failed to be a part of this movement. And I’ve looked at this and I’ve always looked at this as we’re not interested in building a business, right? We’re really interested in more so creating movement, and that you can build a movement, right? A movement is something that has purpose it has caused And as a result, it is around people moving, not necessarily the business moving the people, the people moving the business. Right. And, you know, without a G, I believe that we have stayed true to the fact that this is about a community and a culture and therefore, the relationships that, you know, that we’ve had along the way, I mean, even our relationship, right? You know, it goes way beyond a customer client relationship, or it’s a partnership, it’s a friendship, and I think, common values, which are so important, yeah, people really have a commonality of what they’re trying to accomplish. So I believe, you know, probably the thing that, you know, ultimately, if you were to ask me, you know, what my, you know, my, my greatest, you know, you know, achievement is without a cheese, I believe the impact that we’ve had on many lives, both at Audigy, in our doctor’s offices, as well as with the patients. And so when you think about the number of people that you’ve been able to hopefully, you know, influence and assistant having a better quality of life. I think that’s what represents the fact that we’ve had the success that we’ve had, in, you know, Ben, here, we’ve received a amazing, you know, accolades over the years from, you know, various organizations, and it’s all comes down to the fact that we have a group of people that care as much about this practice, or, excuse me, this business. As as, as we do as the, you know, maybe as a few of the leaders, they treat this business as if it’s their own. And that’s pretty cool.

Dr. Mark Syms  16:26  

Yeah, no, that’s, that’s really awesome. So you know, you meet a lot of people are starting out in hearing loss, just by the nature of what you do. Like, what advice do you give them the good like, the the newbies like, you know, okay, keep your eye on the prize? What’s the prize? Or what do you tell them?

Mason Walker  16:40  

So, you know, When, when, if I were to so I guess, two different, you know, groups, right, if there’s somebody coming to me that was interested in being a part of hearing care, I think it’s, you know, it’s an incredible period of time for hearing, right, like, there’s more awareness around hearing than there probably has ever been before. And when you think about the, you know, the options that you have accessible to you, you know, both as a patient and then also somebody who wants to be involved in the industry, there are so many elements now, where you can be involved and being able to, I would say, you know, grow this industry in a way to where, you know, we’re gonna be taking some steps forward in, in the products that are being offered and market, you know, technology that’s coming to place, the user experience has evolved in such a significant way over the last, you know, five years, it’s incredible see, for hearing this app, so I think it’s an exciting time to be in hearing, from a patient perspective, there, there’s definitely I would say, need for continued education, to be able to understand what your options are in, you know, educating yourself on the fact that not every point of sale out there within the US is created equal when it comes to their investment in your hearing loss. And so yes, you have more choices, and as more freedom of choice in your options to be able to get access to hearing care, which is incredible. But I think we have to ensure that, you know, we’re diligent and making sure that, you know, the patients are doing whatever, wherever possible, and educating themselves on what those choices look like, the resources that are out there, you know, and the accessibility that they have to that, you know, to, to those, you know, various mediums of distribution, because, you know, there’s a lot of like sports

Dr. Mark Syms 18:25  

or craftsmanship, right, like, you know, there’s different levels of sport, and you can be an awesome athlete if that if you have the talent. And that’s not the same as people who play pickup sport in the in the school yard, or, you know, there’s a difference between a master craftsman Mason and a handyman. And so people have to really value what the skills of the people and what they do not just the object, right, not just the football doesn’t determine the outcome, nor do the bricks.

Mason Walker  18:54  

The person. And that’s our challenge as an industry right now is how do you also we know that from a user perspective, I want greater ease, greater access. And I need I need tools and products that allow for me to have an easier interface. And sometimes when you look at you know, the the different professions that go through the evolutions that they’re that they end up going through, we have to make sure that we’re being proactive as an industry, not reactive and evolving to the needs of our of our patients. And so we think about, you know, the patients of today and the patients of tomorrow, you know, how are we not just existing off of a model that works 10 years ago, but really thinking about the amount of information and material that is out there that is accessible through social through through digital interfaces that our patients are experiencing, and how are we helping lead and influence that not just react to it? Right?

Dr. Mark Syms  19:47  

Well, I mean, I think a huge part of this is the educational component teaching people about hearing loss, why it matters. I mean, one of the hard parts is people don’t know they have hearing loss because they don’t know what they don’t hear All right. So, you know, in any hearing care world, like, Who are some of the people you respect highly? I mean, who I mean, you know, whoever comes to mind. I’m talking about care providers, like, you know, people who are in the trenches.

Mason Walker  20:12  

I mean, there’s a lot of great executives, but, ya know, it’s a, it’s a, it’s a great question and, you know, been fortunate to be in 1000s of offices over the last 17 years, and if met, you know, 1000s, of professionals and clinicians and doctors in our industry, you know, there’s a, there’s an incredible group of, you know, when you look at the, the men or women that have invested in getting their doctorate degree in audiology and their commitment to the profession, it’s a it’s, it’s, it’s humbling. And there’s a few people, you know, that stand out to me. You know, one, for sure is an individual by name of Dr. Linda Verba. You know, she was, she was one of our original practices out of the Chicago area, and her husband built an incredible practice. Yeah, it’s a 24 seven society, man. But so one of those individuals that adopted Linda Verba, you know, what I, what I respect, you know, and still do to this day about Linda and the way that she approached her patient care, was there was a mutual investment both in her her time that she spent with her team, as well as her time that she spent with her patients. And what I mean by that is, you know, she, she saw and realized that the ability to create this extraordinary experience for the patient was going to be through her team and being able to represent that at all critical touch points, not just in her ability as a as a clinician or professionals or as a doctor, in the in, in the one interface that she would have that patient. But yeah, I definitely say like Dr. Linda Verba, comes to mind, as one of the, you know, one of the people that will always stand out to me that I admired her approach to patient care, the level of follow through and follow up, you know, when you think about a patient’s, you know, lifestyle, when they leave that practice, that level of follow up is just as critical and making sure that that, you know, that, that the the product and technology is actually meeting if not exceeding that patient’s needs, or as it was on the front end with identifying the needs that they have. So that’s great. 

Dr. Mark Syms  22:33 

Yeah. Alright, so, you know, alright, you wrap it all up times, you know, it’s time for you to say your thing like, okay, Mason, like, Who do you think like, if you have that, you know, you’re accepting that speech? You know, that’s acceptance speech, you know, before I asked you that, though, how do I get a backdrop? Like, you’re? I know, they’re real, it’s, it’s, this is I’m just getting it anyway, you know, who do you think like, you know, I mean, there’s, there’s those people, right, who come to mind, like, you know, and those are kind of the gut, you know, the, the reflex of people, you know, 

Mason Walker  23:05  

yeah, no, I, it’s, you know, yeah, no, I mean, I look, I look at, you know, where, where each of us are, today. And I think about, you know, for, for me, if I come back to some of that conversation around, I desire to be a part of something that’s a purpose, a cause and return a movement to where I feel like I’m able to truly contribute to something holistically, and be involved in something that represents more than a job description, right may represent something more than roles and responsibility, roles or responsibilities are only going to get you so far in your career. And if each of us desire to be able to have this incredible quality of life, then we have to think differently, right? We have to approach our position in a way to where it’s not just a job, it’s a way of living. And therefore when I think about that mindset, and I think about that type of behavior, you know, I 100% have to start with the fact that I didn’t really see and understand that through a degree, right, I didn’t really see and understand that, you know, through simply showing up and going through an educational system, and having a few jobs, certain people model that behavior. And some of those individuals were clearly like my folks, right, you know, hands down. You know, there’s a way of living that I saw, you know, at that Country Emporium Antiques, with mom and dad, that I carry with me today. And I would also say that when I look at the journey that I have been on part of my you know, part of my I would say my growth and my my gratitude for the blessings that I’ve been able to achieve has really been due to the fact that

when I think about where I want to see myself and where I want to go, I’m really clear on what my values are and what matters to me and I’m not just showing up an existing within a system and hoping that that system, sometimes it’s going to work for me and move me forward. Right? You know, I think there’s a level of accountability that each of us, you know, have or should be responsible for, if we do want to move forward if we want to grow, and if we have goals, that we need to be, you know, diligent understanding what those bowls really represent, what those values are, that I truly want to live by what those non negotiables are, that are critical that, you know, I’m not going to sacrifice, right. And so as a result, I feel like you can put yourself in play if you understand your, your environment, or ecosystem based around knowing who you are, and what those goals are, that you’re searching for, or trying to achieve or attain. And so, you know, in thinking about that, you know, part of that mindset, also came from, you know, being with you know, being with Brandon being with some of the other leadership at Audigy to where they were very specific and definitive on where they want to see Audigy and where they want to see us you know, grow and a return inspired me to be that specific about where I want to see myself as Audigy grew, where did I want to see myself with an Audigy. Right. So, you know, there’s another another gem that is popping into mine that I’ll share just briefly but it was my grandfather Stark, who was electrician, right so they were all electrician I was listening I was listening you know, not not necessarily very lucrative lifestyle but he was a small business owner owned a small small electrical place in Tucson called a Batson Stark Electric. And you know, what I saw from, from that experience and watching my grandfather’s You know, when you when you own family, businesses, whether you like it or not, family gets to work for free at them and help out. We put everything down, doesn’t it? You know, Grandpa needs extra help on a job site. Congratulation says it’s all his grandson, you’re getting picked. And he’ll treat you to lunch afterwards. You know, but what I what I always saw, there was the fact that if you’re going to show up, you don’t just show up in kind of, you know, exists. You don’t just show up and give 50% you show up and you give 100% of whatever that job opportunity is, and whatever is needed. And that level of commitment to every project. It amazed me right no matter what time of day, you know, what week or any time of the month, like when grandpa’s showed up on Star electric shut up every battle ambassadors for electric Shut up. You committed to that project. And there was a level of work ethic and a level of follow through and level of commitment that it was about the pride of your work. Yeah, right. And there was like, it really sticks with me to this day of, you know, we would never leave a job until no matter how long it took until it’s completed and completed all the way. And when we did leave there, there was a sense of pride that you could see that you would have that we that we did something in a way that Yeah, exceeded hopefully whatever the job was and the expectation. Right. That’s awesome.

Dr. Mark Syms  28:11  

This is great Mason, thank you know, we’ve been talking to Mason Walker, President at Audigy Mason, how can people get a hold of you or look more about you.

Mason Walker  28:19  

Feel free to connect with me on LinkedIn, as well as on Instagram, @MasonBlueWalker. And know that, you know, for me, I believe that each of us are on a journey. And we’re writing new chapters along the way. And if there’s anything that I can do to help you and the chapters that you’re writing, yeah, please don’t hesitate to reach out and again, basically Walker on Instagram, and I’ll be more than happy to be able to share any insights that I can. Alright Mason, thanks so much. Thank you, my friend. appreciate you having me today.

Outro  28:54  

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