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How to Live Longer with Dr. Art Mollen

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Dr. Art Mollen is the Founder of the Mollen Clinic and lives in Arizona. He is a nationally recognized expert in health, fitness, and preventative method medicine. After graduating from the Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine in 1970, he served in the U.S. Air Force as Chief of Allergy & Immunology.

Dr. Mollen is a prolific author who has written five bestsellers: Run for Your Life, The Mollen Method: A 30-Day Program to Lifetime Health Addiction, Dr. Mollen’s Anti-Aging Diet: The Breakthrough Program for Easy Weight Loss and Longevity, Dr. Mollen’s Anti-Aging Program, and Healthonomics.

Here’s a glimpse of what you’ll learn: 

  • How Dr. Art Mollen became a physician and what drove him to write his first book
  • The story behind the Mollen Clinic and the Mollen Immunization Clinic
  • Dr. Mollen’s thoughts on the state of the current COVID-19 immunizations
  • How Dr. Mollen got to do a radio show and a TV show—and some of the crazy stories and questions from his audience 
  • How Dr. Mollen became a columnist for The Arizona Republic and The Des Moines Register
  • Dr. Mollen’s advice on anti-aging and living a healthy lifestyle 
  • The people Dr. Mollen respects in the anti-aging and longevity field
  • Dr. Mollen and Dr. Syms talk about the COVID-19 vaccine and what people should do to stay healthy during the pandemic period
  • How to get in touch with Dr. Art Mollen

In this episode…

Every person desires to live a long and happy life. To do this, they must follow a healthy lifestyle and take good care of their bodies to avoid diseases that could shorten their lives. Anti-aging involves taking steps so that a person ages gracefully and does not look years older than their current age.

According to Dr. Art Mollen, there are many components to anti-aging. He advises people to avoid too much exposure to the sun and use sunscreen regularly for healthy-looking skin. skin. He also encourages people to have a positive mental attitude, do regular exercises for 30 minutes a day, and make dietary changes to eat healthier food.

In this week’s episode of Listen Up!, Dr. Mark Syms is joined by Dr. Art Mollen, a medical expert and Founder of the Mollen Clinic, to discuss anti-aging and how to live longer. Dr. Mollen shares his tips and tricks for aging gracefully, shares his advice on staying healthy during the current COVID-19 pandemic, and talks about the people he respects in the anti-aging field.

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Sponsor for this episode…

This episode is brought to you by the Arizona Hearing Center.

The Arizona Hearing Center is a cutting-edge hearing care facility providing comprehensive, family-focused care. Approximately 36 million Americans suffer from some sort of hearing loss, more than half of whom are younger than the age of 65. That’s why the team at the Arizona Hearing Center is focused on providing the highest-quality care using innovative technologies and inclusive treatment plans. 

As the Founder of the Arizona Hearing Center, Dr. Mark Syms is passionate about helping patients effectively treat their hearing loss so that they can stay connected with their family and friends and remain independent. He knows first-hand how hearing loss can impact social connection and effective communication. By relying on three core values—empathy, education, and excellence—Dr. Syms and his team of hearing loss experts are transforming the lives of patients. 

So what are you waiting for? Stop missing out on the conversation and start improving your quality of life today!    

To learn more about the Arizona Hearing Center, visit or call us at 602-307-9919. We don’t sell hearing aids—we treat your hearing loss. 

Episode Transcript

Intro  0:04

Welcome to the Listen Up Podcast where we explore hearing loss, communication, connections and health.

Dr. Mark Syms  0:17

Hi Dr. Mark Syms here, I’m the host of the Listen Up Podcast where we feature top leaders in health care. This episode is brought to you by Arizona Hearing Center. I help patients to effectively treat their hearing loss so they can connect better with their family and friends and remain independent. The reason I’m so passionate about helping patients is because I lost my brother Robbie twice, first from his hearing loss from radiation to his brain tumor and then again when he passed away. I only hear for ears on the ENT and I’ve performed over 10,000 surgeries over the past 20 years. I’m the Founder of The Arizona Hearing Center. I’m also the author of “Listen Up”. Go to to learn more about the book and go to to contact us for any questions. 

Today I have Dr. Art Mollen who is a medical leader who lives in Arizona. He’s the medical director of the Mollen Clinic and is a nationally recognized expert in health, fitness and preventative method medicine. He’s a prolific author, including five bestsellers – Run for Your Life, The Mollen Method, Dr. Mollen’s Anti-Aging Diet, Dr. Mollen’s Anti-Aging Program and Healthonomics, and how to balance your physical, emotional financial checkbook. I’m privileged and excited to have him on Listen Up! How are you doing today?

Dr. Art Mollen  1:26  

Great. Thank you for having me, Mark.

Dr. Mark Syms  1:28  

I appreciate that. So tell me about your act of becoming a physician. How did you end up becoming a physician?

Dr. Art Mollen  1:36  

Well, I was born, raised and educated in Philadelphia and just came from a pretty middle class environment and just, you know, always had a passion for medicine. And I had great respect for the physicians that treated me when I was a young boy. So and interestingly enough, I had a lot of, you know, ear infections as a child, I might add. And so I had a pediatrician way back in the dinosaur days. And then he would come to the house and actually open up the inner ear drum and drain it. And they kind of did that in the house. So that was what was in the wild, the wild west of Philadelphia. What’s interesting, I

Dr. Mark Syms  2:27  

you might not know this, but I grew up in Philadelphia as well. Oh, okay. And I was looking at your, your, your CV, and I did not, but my father was a physician, and my mother was a nurse, and they both trained in Philadelphia General Hospital. So you have Oh, well, okay. I’m not that it’s not that it’s open anymore. It wasn’t open. When I went to medical school in Philadelphia. My father described it as a great place to train so you’ve written multiple books, and we’re just kind of curious, like, how did you end up like your first book? What led you to write it? Like, why did you I mean, not the topic, like, what was the realization when you’re like, wow, I should write a book about this?

Dr. Art Mollen  3:05  

Yeah. Well, I got very interested in running, I started running in my senior year of medical school, and I was very interested at that time in preventive medicine, and I just developed a real passion for running and continued running on a regular basis. And then, in fact, decided I was going to run the Boston Marathon. So Wow, ran the Boston Marathon. And then after that, I was even more enthused, and I joined what was called at that time, the American Medical Joggers Association, and there were quite a few people there who were lecturing. One infamous lecture was your chin, who had written many books about it. And he lectured and spoke about it and saw the different aspects of running and learned a great deal. And so from that point on, I decided that I too, wanted to craft a book and you know, about specifically running so that was my first book, which was run for life, which was a double day bestseller, and, you know, is kind of at the forefront of the running craze, which was published in 1978. And from that point, I continued on to start the Phoenix 10 K, which back then was called the northbank 10 k. so so that was kind of an evolution into running and running being the first book that I had written and talked about cardiovascular disease. And, you know, when I was in medical school, I always was interested in preventive health. And, you know, I saw a lot of physicians around me who didn’t look particularly healthy and they, you know, I thought they were very old at that time because they were like in their 40s and 50s. Now, it seems very young. Yeah. All right. But, you know, so back then, you know, I started running my senior year in Philadelphia with snow on the ground and, and then after that when I graduated from medical school I was drafted and I was active duty doctor in the Air Force at Luke Air Force Base. So that’s how I got that resume.

Dr. Mark Syms  5:26  

Yeah. So people tell me the sneakers were like Chuck converses, Chuck Chuck Taylors and stuff like very beginning people.

Dr. Art Mollen  5:34  

Yeah, well, the converse were something that I did run in early in the early days. And then my first Boston Marathon shoes were Pumas, which were extremely thin. I, in fact, have them on a shelf behind me right now. But so it’s kind of interesting. I held on to those shoes because I showed people those shoes. It’s like, how did you run them? And I said, Well, they’re actually better than the shoes that Abebe Bikila ran in and then in the 1960 Rome Olympics, because he ran barefoot and that and one. So I have shoes on in the Boston Marathon, but I can assure you I didn’t win.

Dr. Mark Syms  6:15  

Yeah, well, it’s still pretty impressive to finish. I’ve run one marathon in my life. It’s a lot of work. It’s wonderful. It is a great feeling of accomplishment. Yes, yes, very much. So you know, as you know, vaccines are very much in people’s minds. Tell me the story of Mollen Clinic and the Mollen Immunization Clinic in North American Academy. How did that all develop for you?

Dr. Art Mollen  6:35  

So back in the 1980s, I would say probably 1988- 89, the Maricopa County Health Department came to me. And at that point, I was writing a syndicated newspaper column as doing the television and radio shows. And so they said, Do you have any ideas on how to promote flu shots in Arizona? Because we’re doing a study with Medicare to discern if free flu shots would lower the mortality and hospitalization among seniors? And I said, Yeah, you know, I have some ideas. Maybe we could do it in a grocery store. Or we could do it in a shopping center. So I went to Eddie Basha, who I knew at the time, and he said, you know, do you think we could do some flu shots, and I’ll have nurses and we’ll do them in the store. And, you know, it’d be a great disservice in this spirit of public health and, he agreed and said, Yeah, and I did that year about 15 clinics. And from that point on, Medicare then turned around the study was, you know, a success, and they were able to give free flu shots to seniors, because at that time, seniors had to pay like a $5 copay in order to get a flu shot. And the interest was very minimal. So vaccines were being produced and we actually were administering less than our say, 25% of seniors were actually getting flu immunizations each year. So the program kind of grew from there. You know, and eventually, I became the largest mass flu in the United States. 

And we did all the flu shots and all the Walmarts. So we did. And we would do clinics in the grocery stores, and we did them in Costco. We did them on target. We, we, we did pretty much everyone. And so that’s that was kind of the evolution of it. And I had the company for about 20 years and sold it to you know, venture capitalist if you know, and they took it over and passport health. One who was one of the buyers at that time, they still actually are in the immunization business, so the largest travel immunization company in America now, you know, but, and I still have an excellent relationship with them. And so, so this past year, in fact, because I thought we would wind up having a twin demick with COVID and influenza. I contacted the county health department, and was able to convince them that they needed to plan for that. And we had a program with Pima county health as well as Maricopa County Health Department, and immunized 1000s of seniors this year with influenza. And we’re in the midst of negotiating to do COVID and immunizations as well.

Dr. Mark Syms  9:49  

That’d be great. I mean, as you know, people need access to it. How do you think the immunizations going so far based on your experience? Yeah.

Dr. Art Mollen  9:59  

Yeah. I mean, the COVID immunizations here, as far as I’m concerned are, you know, way behind, you know, we’ve immunized about 300,000 COVID immunizations at this time, we have 7.2 million people in Arizona. So we have a Herculean task ahead of us, if we are planning to immunize everyone and get them to the point where we have herd immunity at 85 or 90%, which will occur, whether people are immunized or whether they

Dr. Mark Syms  10:30  

developed an accident, I began to get it themselves. Right.

Dr. Art Mollen  10:35  

Right. Exactly. Yeah. So, yeah, that’s, that’s kind of what we’re looking for. So, yeah, so the COVID, you know, situation has not been well handled up to this point. And hopefully going forward, it will be successful not only by the state of Arizona, but by the country as well.

Dr. Mark Syms  10:59  

Yeah, no, hopefully. Hopefully, the falls are a lot better.

Dr. Art Mollen  11:02  

Yes. And hopefully we can get through this correctly.

Dr. Mark Syms  11:05  

Yeah, I have. I’ve gotten in the eyes. So I mean, obviously, there’s still things I’d be careful about, but I feel very lucky to have. Yeah.

Dr. Art Mollen  11:17  

So I’ve been immunized myself. So

Dr. Mark Syms  11:20  

well. Great. So I know you, I was looking at you, you had a TV show and a radio show. What’s this? I mean, it’s just I’m always fascinated, like, what’s the start? How’d you get into that? I mean, I know you wrote a book, but you know, I’m more interested, like, what’s that story? Like? What when that light bulb went off? Or, you know, the day that it happened? How did that all happen? Because these are usually great folklore stories, if that makes sense.

Dr. Art Mollen  11:42  

So like, the anti fascist?

Dr. Art Mollen  11:47  

So anti-aging? But yeah,

Dr. Mark Syms  11:51  

well, you did a TV show. Right? And have you ever? Yeah. How did you sell to those?

Dr. Art Mollen  11:57  

So, the evolution for me, and again, it was perhaps more serendipitous than, you know, me actually having a lifelong plan to become a medical communicator and, you know, media person. So just as I guess, as I was writing the book, and, you know, running, and people were more interested in that, they wanted to have more information about it. So they basically, you know, contacted me, you know, and said, Would you like to do a radio show? And that was ktr. And that was back in the 1970s? And said, Would you, you know, do a call and radio show. And so, you know, I always like to call in a type of show and handle questions from the listeners. And, because then you can really respond much more extemporaneously, and you don’t have to have a contrived message, you know, you know, unfortunately, when you’re doing TV, which I do, now, a lot of times, you don’t really get more than a five minute period to present some type of diatribe on what you’re trying to explain so. So it’s, it’s a completely different format, you know, like doing a podcast mark for you is a much better, you know, venue, I can tell you then, then doing a five minute segment,

Dr. Mark Syms  13:31  

it’s hard to boil it all down in five minutes, right. And get it really is.

Dr. Art Mollen  13:36  

I mean, if you were to explain some of the year, you know, cases that you’ve seen over the years, I’m sure it’ll take you a lot more than just five minutes to even explain one case, let alone try to expand on, you know, a multitude of different problems and other comorbidities that people have so

Dr. Mark Syms  13:56  

crazy stories. Has anything crazy happened here? It’s okay for nasm.

Dr. Art Mollen  14:05  

Yeah, in regard to the different shows that I yeah, like,

Dr. Mark Syms  14:09  

people ask if something weird or something strange happens. I mean, it just seems like it’s a, it’s conducive to sound like the most memorable thing that ever happened.

Dr. Art Mollen  14:19  

Yeah. Well, I mean, people will always ask, you know, the most bizarre questions and sometimes I, you know, if they’re really a little bit off color, shall we say? I’ll just say we’re not taking psychiatric calls today.

Dr. Mark Syms  14:41  

But you have to figure out how to deal with that.

Dr. Art Mollen  14:44  

Yeah, that’s my usual response, you know, like, you know, that or they’ll say something, I mean, years ago, you know, Bill close, who used to do channel 10. He was a news anchor, you know, they they said something about him and you know, which I won’t even repeat But, you know, and that’s where I just kind of stepped in, you know, and it’s like, no, we’re not taking those kind of calls today, you know. So, you know, when you’re, when you’re doing that, you have to really be prepared, you know, you’re taking live calls from people, I mean, they’re the radio, of course, it’s much easier to cut them off. But on TV, when you’re taking live calls, which I had done for many, many years, now with COVID, because they, when I do my TV show on Sundays, they come to the house, you know, so the photographer comes to the house, and I just interact with the anchors live, but it’s just the anchor, so we’re not taking the calls that we normally would do. So it’s a little bit

Dr. Mark Syms  15:45  

a little more control,

Dr. Art Mollen  15:46  

it’s a lot easier, a lot less stressful, a lot easier, and everything else. So, you know, and the anchors at three TV shows where I do this, my Sunday show, you know, are so delightful to deal with, you know, they’re just yeah.

Dr. Mark Syms 16:02  

So that’s great.

Dr. Art Mollen  16:04  

And writing the column, the column was great. And it was syndicated at one point in 100. Newspapers and, and so how I started with that, I actually just I went to the managing editor of The Arizona Republic, and just said, I want to write a column, you know, I’ve seen some of your medical, you know, things, and I think I could contribute a lot more. And it was, again, during the running time, so it started with more of Sports Medicine, you know, you know, being at the forefront of sports medicine, boom, you know, I was able to, you know, convince him to do that. So then I started writing for them. And then, you know, one day, someone from the Des Moines Register, showed up in my office and said, how would you like to write the syndicated column for us? You know, we, we read one of your columns, and we were interested, and I said, Yeah, I’d love to. So the next thing I knew they syndicated, it was 100 papers. And I crafted that for about 30 years. And then the newspaper industry kind of

Dr. Mark Syms  17:13  

gets replaced by the lies.

Dr. Art Mollen  17:15  

Yeah, I mean, it was like, everything was the internet. And people hardly even read the Arizona Republic anymore, because it’s all on the internet. And they’re getting the news so much faster. So when you get a newspaper, you get it the next day. I mean, I still like to read the newspaper, because the stories are, you know, significantly more in depth, you know, but, so, so that that was the story there. And then after, when I got down to about 10, newspapers, it just wasn’t worth it. Because it was a lot of work. I was writing. I was writing three columns a week. Wow, time. Yeah, that’s very Just so you know, and between doing that and practicing, and, you know, and then, you know, just and then the evolution of my immunization programs, so there were just a lot of balls in the air.

Dr. Mark Syms  18:03  

Sure, yeah. Well, I mean, I think people are driven to change things and usually have a lot of stuff going on.

Dr. Art Mollen  18:09  

Yeah. Well, you know, yeah, and you’re changing things. And if I might add, you know, not to be patronizing in any way, but you have taken care of so many of my patients over the years mark, and have been such an incredible doctor for them, you know, when they have had serious ear problems that, you know, that’s really, you know, you’re you’re truly an icon in Arizona, like you do for patients. You know, that’s interesting.

Dr. Mark Syms  18:42  

One of the things that said, you know, we do have merging paths, right, because there’s a large association of hearing loss with dementia and Alzheimer’s, and so yes, out there, one of the things I’ll send you as a copy of my book, so I’d like you to take a look at it, but it’s really about how hearing loss is poorly treated, and how it can be better treated. And that’s actually one of my, my, my movement towards that preventative nature of treating hearing is a small part of the longevity of that, you know, anti aging longevity field.

Dr. Art Mollen  19:12  

Right. As well, multiple components, as you know, it’s all important when, you know, they lose their hearing. And on top of Alzheimer’s and the Parkinson’s and the other comorbidities. I mean, it’s really difficult to these patients, and they’re not and as a clinician, I mean, I still practice and see patients, you know, daily, so, you know, it’s, it’s pretty devastating and just as devastating to the family, you know, just as

Dr. Mark Syms  19:43  

that loss of connectivity, right, you know, yeah, they become socially isolated. So, I mean, speaking of, you know, the anti aging field, like if you were to give people like, you know, so I’m, you know, it’s interesting, I’m a surgeon here doctor surgeon who’s now kind of fallen into a facet. I want to learn more about the anti aging thing. So if you were to give people like five takeaways or three takeaways, what would those be? I mean, you know, what would be the top? You know, I know, like, people always say, you know, when they go to these conferences, some of my colleagues will say, we’ll make sure you floss because there’s like an association with flossing and heart disease I wasn’t aware of needing more, you know, ones that seem a little bit more impractical?

Dr. Art Mollen  20:23  

Yeah. Well, there. First of all, there’s so many different components in terms of anti aging in our head, we’re talking about, you know, cosmetic anti aging, I’d say, you know, the first thing is stay out of the sun, you know, I mean, stay out of the sun, wear sunscreen. In Arizona, you know, and if you’re, let’s say, You’re 50 years old right now, I mean, you need to stay out of the sun and wear sunscreen, or you’re going to just destroy your skin, and you’re going to look 10 years older than you are by the time you reach the age of 60 or 70. So, you know, from a cosmetic standpoint, try to try to maintain your weight, you know, at the same weight you were, whether it was in high school or college, and, you know, and try to keep that way, you know, at the same level. From a dietary standpoint, I mean, I haven’t eaten red meat in 3540 years, so chicken and fish. So I think eating less meat, and on that same token, eating less barbecued foods, because I believe that the nitrosamines are carcinogenic. And so you want to make sure you prevent, you know, any colon cancer and anything like that, and mention that the age for colonoscopies has now been lowered to 45. It was 50. So the taskforce has recently come out with those guidelines. And if you have a family history of colon cancer, you need to look into that at 35 to start getting colonoscopies.

Dr. Mark Syms  21:57  

Yeah, I had mine at 45. Because I had a I have a family history, not at 35. But

Dr. Art Mollen  22:02  

right. And so the other thing is, you know, if I had to say one key component to anti-aging is having a positive mental attitude. I mean, your attitude can make such a significant difference in terms of your overall health. And, you know, everybody has stress in their life. And everybody can say, well, that’s the reason I’m, I have this attitude, but you need to overcome that attitude and do whatever it takes. I think the one thing that allows you to have a more positive mental attitude is going to be exercise. And because it’s going to increase beta endorphins in your brain, and you’re going to feel better about yourself. And so, you know, you may wake up and on a scale of one to 10, you may feel like you’re reaching up the touch bottom, but by the end of the day, if you exercise, you’ll be able to function at the pinnacle of what your creativity is, and, and have more energy and function at a much higher level than someone else. So I think exercise is the key. When we talk about exercises, like what are you going to do?

Whatever you enjoy you, you can walk, you can jog, you can bake, you can swim, you can do an aerobics class, jump up and down on a mini trampoline, do a peloton do a spin it act whatever it is, but just some type of exercise and you need to do you know, people always say, well, should I exercise every day? It’s like, Well, are you going to eat every day? Well, you’re going to eat every day. So you’re putting energy into the body? Why not expend energy out of the body? So yes, I, I think you should exercise every day Plus, it creates, you know, that habit? And that’s, you know, you know, as, as human beings have, we form those habits. And if you can create that habit, again, the younger you are, you know, of course, the better off you’re going to be, you know, when you get to behold. So, you know, so I think you know, you need to put that into your daily regimen. And what I suggest you try to do an hour a day, yes, but a minimum of 30 minutes a day. And if you feel badly, and you feel like well, where can I start 10 minutes a day, you know, 10 minutes a day will be enough. If you do 10 minutes a day, every day for 30 days, it’s a minimal addictive dose of exercise, it’s enough to get you feeling a little bit better. And if you do that for a period of 90 days and you and you stop with the exercise, you’ll experience fatigue, a little anxiety, a little insomnia, similar symptoms if you were addicted to, you know, medication and opioid or Xanax or, or anything like that. Speaking of which, I think you need to avoid all of those things. types of medications, any of the opioids, any of the Xanax, any of the sleeping pills, if you can avoid all those medications, you’re going to be a lot better off going forward. 

You know, so minimize the amount of medications. And then from the dietary standpoint, and people, you know, they often say, Well, I want to lose weight, well, my suggestion is, eliminate the pasta, rice, potatoes and bread, those four are the killers of man, you know, pasta, rice, potatoes, and bread. So, if you can, just, I mean, you’re not gonna be able to eliminate them entirely. I mean, I mean, I love a good pizza. You know, but for most people, you know, you can eat pizza every day. And you want to try to, you know, minimize those four foods, if you’re, particularly if you’re trying to lose weight, and it will help to control your blood sugar. And I believe that, you know, if you can keep your blood sugar low enough, that’s potentially going to be one of the factors that will lower your risk of Alzheimer’s, because I think the glucose metabolism in the brain is very closely linked to Alzheimer’s and everything I’ve studied, you know, over the years, you know, on Alzheimer, and the diabetes, it just seems to be a real link between those two. So, that’s another reason to, you know, control it. And of course, cardiovascular disease, you want to be fit, you know, and you want to lower your risk of heart disease, I mean, heart disease, is still the number one cause of death in America, you know, and, you know, when I started out in medicine markets crazy, but the normal cholesterol was 300. And why I had bought and you’d look at the lab report, and would say, 301 of these lectures that I went to back in the 1970s, was by a cardiologist who said, if you can lower your cholesterol at that time, to 150 or less, you would be able to lower your risk of cardiac disease. And then the Framingham Heart Study came out, and kind of corroborated that report that if you were able to lower your cholesterol down to 150 or less, and so that should be your ideal cholesterol, your ideal LDL should be less than 70. And your ideal hemoglobin, a one C, should again, try to be lower than 5.6. So, so those are some, you know, markers that, you know, are good to look at. And, you know, you know, for most people going forward,

Dr. Mark Syms  27:42  

you gotta measure it to know how you’re doing. Right.

Dr. Art Mollen  27:45  

Yeah. So so those are kind of my, you know, my, my crystallize the version, if I gave you a diatribe one,

Dr. Mark Syms  27:55  

that’s good. That’s good stuff for me.

Dr. Art Mollen  27:57  

Yeah. It’s just, you know, it’s a positive mental attitude, exercise for 30 minutes a day, you know, the diet, eliminate the pasta, rice, potatoes and bread, you know, and, you know, and, and just try to, you know, just lower that, lower that hemoglobin a one C and cholesterol levels. So, okay, and then you’ll live to be 100 hopefully,

Dr. Mark Syms  28:24  

God willing, right.

Dr. Art Mollen  28:26  

And function autonomously because all live to be 100. But we, we want to have quality, quality of life is as far as I’m concerned, more important than anything.

Dr. Mark Syms  28:36  

Agree, Agree. 100%. So, you know, who are some of the people in the longevity field that you respect, you know, any anti aging field who are some other people?

Dr. Art Mollen  28:47  

But I go back to Nathan Pritikin. Do you remember Pritikin remember that name? Nathan Pritikin hit the Pritikin clinic in Santa Barbara originally, and then he moved it to Santa Monica and, you know, and he was a great believer in reducing, you know, certain foods, you know, that you’re eating? I think Andy wild has contributed a great deal, you know, down in Tucson, he’s contributed, you know, a lot to that area. I mean, I don’t know if I had to say I had any mentors, it would just be, you know, a conglomeration, you know,

Dr. Mark Syms  29:31  

a lot of literature, a lot of different articles.

Dr. Art Mollen  29:33  

Right. Yeah. Of all the articles and everything. I can’t say that there’s, you know, one individual that, you know, I try to, you know, follow it over the years. Yeah, no, no, I

Dr. Mark Syms  29:46  

totally get it. I mean, there’s so much medical literature and it’s a kind of put it all together from there. Yeah,

Dr. Art Mollen  29:51  

we’re, yeah, we’re inundated today, especially with Google. Well, yeah,

Dr. Mark Syms  29:57  

I think it’s kind of giving people maybe those 10 things or something like that. And what you’ve done is you’ve just boiled down a lot of knowledge, experience and the literature to give it to people. I think that’s great.

Dr. Art Mollen  30:09  

Yeah. So. So I think, you know, going forward, you know, we need to get out of this pandemic stage and get to that herd immunity so that we can get back to a normal life, I don’t believe that we’ll be out of the mask stage of life probably for a year, you know, people will continue to wear masks, you know, and hopefully, you know, after that, will we be good to go,

Dr. Mark Syms  30:37  

you know, whatever the new normal is,

Dr. Art Mollen  30:39  

right. Yeah, exactly, you know, yeah. You know, gonna get too political here, but I’m happy with things the way they have evolved. I think, then I think it’ll be beneficial for our environment, you know, going forward to have some transparency in, you know, in what’s going on with the COVID. 90.

Dr. Mark Syms  31:08  

Well, I will say attributed to science, how quickly this vaccine was able to be developed. And yes,

Dr. Art Mollen  31:14  

The vaccine is pretty amazing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, they’re more candidate guys. Oh, yeah. Yeah, at the end of the day, follow the science. I’m kind of excited about the j&j vaccine, because it’s going to be one dose as opposed to two doses. Right. And so that benefit should be good. And that should probably come out maybe in February, or so. So we might be thinking like

Dr. Mark Syms  31:43  

guys involved in this rollout maybe later in the spring?

Dr. Art Mollen  31:47  

Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. So we’re talking to them now. So we’ll see what they say. But what their what their game. Their game plan is. I think going forward is the best thing for everyone out there is even though it gets it. That’s a canine? That’s Yeah, that’s right. Yeah. Yeah, you know, yeah. I think pets are healthy.

Dr. Mark Syms  32:30  

I think that’s a longevity thing, too.

Dr. Mark Syms  32:31  

You know, a lot of pleasure.

Dr. Art Mollen  32:35  

Yeah, I think it’s a Yeah. So. But I think if people want to try to stay as normal as possible, during this whole pandemic, again, they should be doing some type of exercise. And that is basic, whether it’s, you know, again, going out for a walk every day and, and doing something, you know, many of my patients are coming in, it’s like, I gained weight, because pandemic, and I’m not going out. And it’s like, well, you still could go out, you know, I mean, you know, that that’s why they call it the COVID-19. You know, because there’s about 19 pounds that have an impact on people. So,

Dr. Mark Syms  33:18  

you know, we’re also blessed in Arizona with the weather that enables you to be

Dr. Art Mollen  33:21  

Oh, my God. Yeah. I mean, if you were in Chicago right now, or, you know, or upper Midwest,

Herman or someplace, I mean, yeah, I mean, it’s, so we are blessed to be here, and we can go out and exercise every day. So I think that’s really critically important is for people to, you know, to keep up their exercise routine, you know, and, and for people that don’t want to go out, you can get a stationary bike, and they’re not very expensive, you can buy them used, you know, you can move, probably get one for less than $100. So, I think it’s something, you know, that people, you know, could start doing Yeah. Well, they need to get their regular checkups, you know, people I noticed during this particular time, you know, they’ve kind of slacked off, you know, they want to go to the doctor’s office because of the potential of picking up COVID in the doctor’s office and, and things like that, but, you know, they still need to get their heart checked and their blood pressure checked and, you know, get their cholesterol check. I mean, if you don’t take care of yourself, you know, besides the COVID, there are other things that you’re, you know, going to, you know, contract and that are going to cause illness, you know, people have avoided emergency rooms, because they were having chest pain, and they wound up having, you know, fatal coronary events. So, yeah, be careful with that as well. Yeah,

Dr. Mark Syms  34:53  

that’s terrible. And so hopefully people will. That is why we call them vitals and you need your checks. Well, you know, thank you very much appreciate it. We’ve been talking to Dr. Mollen, who’s the author, founder of the mobile clinic and a preventative medicine expert. Dr. Mollen, how can people get a hold of you?

Dr. Art Mollen  35:11  

Well, our phone number is 480-860-6455. So they can certainly call. Our offices are located at Tatum and Shea, it’s 10214 Tatum Boulevard. And yeah, they can also get on to my email, you know, and that’s, you know, through to channel three, they can get on that. And that’s Okay.

Dr. Mark Syms  35:52  

Thank you so much.

Dr. Art Mollen  35:54  

Yes, thank you.

Outro  35:58  

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